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	<title>Comments on: interpolating the platform</title>
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		<title>By: JD on EP</title>
		<link>http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/08/24/interpolating-the-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-100342</link>
		<dc:creator>JD on EP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;WebRunner, XULRunner...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;WebRunner, XULRunner: Seems like Firefox 3 can be passed an initialization file when started by command line, with the result that it starts up as &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; interface, rather than the viewer&#039;s normal Firefox layout. Mark Finkle has the source post here. ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WebRunner, XULRunner&#8230;</strong></p>

<p>WebRunner, XULRunner: Seems like Firefox 3 can be passed an initialization file when started by command line, with the result that it starts up as <em>your</em> interface, rather than the viewer&#8217;s normal Firefox layout. Mark Finkle has the source post here. &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mawrya</title>
		<link>http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/08/24/interpolating-the-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-100327</link>
		<dc:creator>mawrya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mike - &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for laying things out clearly.  I feel enlightened.  Of course now I have all these shiny platforms and need to pick one.  It would be great to see something on MozDev along the lines of a choice matrix that helps you choose what would be best for your situation - you know a comparison of pros and cons.  Everyone&#039;s different of course, but it would at least point you a general direction.  Basically what you have but more pros/cons to consider.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; </p>

<p>Thanks for laying things out clearly.  I feel enlightened.  Of course now I have all these shiny platforms and need to pick one.  It would be great to see something on MozDev along the lines of a choice matrix that helps you choose what would be best for your situation &#8211; you know a comparison of pros and cons.  Everyone&#8217;s different of course, but it would at least point you a general direction.  Basically what you have but more pros/cons to consider.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: skierpage</title>
		<link>http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/08/24/interpolating-the-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-100314</link>
		<dc:creator>skierpage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m using -app to load little test XUL apps to see if bugs are in Firefox builds or the underlying toolkit.  Also it&#039;s a great way to start up a &quot;clean&quot; browser instance while FF continues to run, to see if a browser problem clears up without your extensions and profile loaded.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I realize there&#039;s a risk if big XUL projects tie into the Firefox platform upgrade, but I would love to see more Mozilla-based apps provided as simple XUL packages.  Fewer runtimes, fewer EXEs to install and uninstall, less disk usage, and less runtime memory usage through shared code (I think?).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;XUL-based projects could offer a &quot;Download SuperApp as XULRunner (Smaller download) Use this if you have Firefox 3 installed and you&#039;re familiar with XUL applications&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then should Firefox version change, the code could report a friendlier &quot;SuperApp needs a version of the Mozilla platform between 1.8 to 1.9.1, but your Firefox is at 1.9.2.  Download the appropriate platform code from &lt;em&gt;superapp.com&lt;/em&gt; to continue ...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, great stuff!  I &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using -app to load little test XUL apps to see if bugs are in Firefox builds or the underlying toolkit.  Also it&#8217;s a great way to start up a &#8220;clean&#8221; browser instance while FF continues to run, to see if a browser problem clears up without your extensions and profile loaded.</p>

<p>I realize there&#8217;s a risk if big XUL projects tie into the Firefox platform upgrade, but I would love to see more Mozilla-based apps provided as simple XUL packages.  Fewer runtimes, fewer EXEs to install and uninstall, less disk usage, and less runtime memory usage through shared code (I think?).</p>

<p>XUL-based projects could offer a &#8220;Download SuperApp as XULRunner (Smaller download) Use this if you have Firefox 3 installed and you&#8217;re familiar with XUL applications&#8221;.</p>

<p>Then should Firefox version change, the code could report a friendlier &#8220;SuperApp needs a version of the Mozilla platform between 1.8 to 1.9.1, but your Firefox is at 1.9.2.  Download the appropriate platform code from <em>superapp.com</em> to continue &#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>Anyway, great stuff!  I </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Asa Dotzler  - Firefox and more</title>
		<link>http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/08/24/interpolating-the-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-100300</link>
		<dc:creator>Asa Dotzler  - Firefox and more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;following up on webrunner...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mike Shaver has a great blog post up today that I think goes a long way to clarifying the Mozilla platform story. All that, and it&#039;s less than 500 words long. Do read this.......&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>following up on webrunner&#8230;</strong></p>

<p>Mike Shaver has a great blog post up today that I think goes a long way to clarifying the Mozilla platform story. All that, and it&#8217;s less than 500 words long. Do read this&#8230;&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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