Comments on: Lightning drive-by

By: Robert Accettura

Robert Accettura — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

How long until we get nightly builds of either lightning or thunderbird with lightning integrated?

IMHO that's the point where we are all going to hop on and start creating a billion+1 bugs about UI improvements and start contributing code.

Even with code available, it's vaporware until it has routine builds. That's when it becomes a community effort.

By: Chris G.

Chris G. — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I agree with Robert. Nightly builds of Thunderbird + Lightning is where a lot of good attention will be given to the project. Heck, Slashdot has ran stories on Firefox and Thunderbird from pratically day one about big upgrades to early releases (Thunderbird 0.1 for example).

I am so excited about Lightning, but I can't help out without a build to test!

By: shaver

shaver — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

No, it’s not vapourware. We’ve had a few contributed builds up on http://ftp.mozilla.org and posted about relatively quietly, but the software exists, and is available if you want to verify what it does and participate; to group it in with software that is announced but never made available to anyone is misleading, and insulting. As it is indeed to describe it as not being a “community effort”; that it’s not well-packaged for easy user installation doesn’t diminish the contributions of the calendar community (developers, testers, feedback-providers, other helpers) in any way, even in the face of your offensive rhetoric.

Nightlies will be available as soon as the build team has the cycles to set up the infrastructure for it. I don’t know how to make that happen faster, or how to determine the date on which it will happen. If I did, I’d have done or said so.

You don’t need to tell me that we will get more user feedback once we have user-installable releases available for wide distribution. You might note that I said almost exactly that in my post.

Mike

By: autonome

autonome — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Great news, Mike!

Is Lightning going to be distributed as a TB extension? Or is it tightly integrated?

By: autonome

autonome — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

ah, nm. i found the xpis on http://ftp.mozilla.org, which answered my question :)

By: Ludovic

Ludovic — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I would love to find a pointer to server software able to talk with lightning, could you provide such pointers here ?

By: michaell

michaell — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

"IMHO that’s the point where we are all going to hop on and start creating a billion+1 bugs about UI improvements"

And that's a good thing, is it?

"and start contributing code"

I would imagine the people that can and will contribute code are likely to be people that can build the app themselves (or at least people that will find the builds that are already available)

The world and their dog complaining that the software is full of bugs and lacking lots of features they want is something that can happen based on 0.8 - that, as Mike said in the post, is the point. Putting out nightly binaries just means you'll get the same comments on every build until things get fixed (which is mostly what happens with Firefox, and it's well past "1.0"...)

By: orrin

orrin — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

i can’t wait to try it out!

By: gandalf

gandalf — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Are lastest Lightning sources in Mozilla CVS?

By: Daniel Beckham

Daniel Beckham — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Until Lightening supports Palm and PDA integration, it doesn't compete with iCal or the myriad of software already available on the PC for cheap or free. To me, it's interesting, but worthless.

I'd love to use it, but why bother when I end up having to maintain two different calandar/contact applications, one for day to day use and one to keep my PDA updated?